Firmware for Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless LAN Controller

[Claudia Neumann]

Hi John,
hi all,

I succeeded in installing Debian trixie/sid on an iMac G5 with Radeon X550/X600 graphic
card. I am using Xfce and Links2 as webbrowser.

Now I need wireless LAN. It has an Broadcom BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) 802.11g
Wireless LAN Controller.

I downloaded firmware-b43-installer but cannot install it, because it wants b43-fwcutter.
This package is only available fÃŒr ppc64el not for ppc64.

At this point I am stuck. What should I do?

CU

Claudia

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

Hi Claudia,

Post by Claudia Neumann
I succeeded in installing Debian trixie/sid on an iMac G5 with Radeon X550/X600 graphic
card. I am using Xfce and Links2 as webbrowser.
Now I need wireless LAN. It has an Broadcom BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller.
I downloaded firmware-b43-installer but cannot install it, because it wants b43-fwcutter.
This package is only available für ppc64el not for ppc64.
At this point I am stuck. What should I do?

It's because the package b43-fwcutter is part of the "contrib" section which
is not available in Debian Ports, however I can build it.

I will build the package manually and upload it to "unreleased" for both powerpc
and ppc64. It will be available by tonight.

You will need to add "unreleased" to your sources.list to use it:

deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main

Adrian

[Claudia Neumann]

Great! Thx

CU

Claudia Neumann

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Claudia,

Post by Claudia Neumann
I succeeded in installing Debian trixie/sid on an iMac G5 with Radeon
X550/X600 graphic card. I am using Xfce and Links2 as webbrowser.
Now I need wireless LAN. It has an Broadcom BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g)
802.11g Wireless LAN Controller.
I downloaded firmware-b43-installer but cannot install it, because it
wants b43-fwcutter. This package is only available fÃŒr ppc64el not for
ppc64.
At this point I am stuck. What should I do?

It's because the package b43-fwcutter is part of the "contrib" section which
is not available in Debian Ports, however I can build it.
I will build the package manually and upload it to "unreleased" for both
powerpc and ppc64. It will be available by tonight.
deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main
Adrian
--
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: :' : Debian Developer
`. `' Physicist
`- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913

[Steffen Grunewald]

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Claudia,

Post by Claudia Neumann
I downloaded firmware-b43-installer but cannot install it, because it wants b43-fwcutter.
This package is only available für ppc64el not for ppc64.
At this point I am stuck. What should I do?

It's because the package b43-fwcutter is part of the "contrib" section which
is not available in Debian Ports, however I can build it.

I found it (an older version at least) on snapshots.debian.org, around 2017
(I don't have my notes at hand, but it must have been for Buster back then?).
Make sure that you get the same version of the firmware-*-installer(s), to
properly resolve dependencies; then install them together using "dpkg -i".

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
I will build the package manually and upload it to "unreleased" for both powerpc
and ppc64. It will be available by tonight.

Even better!

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main

Many thanks for your extremely fast and knowledgeable support,
Steffen

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

Post by Steffen Grunewald

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
I will build the package manually and upload it to "unreleased" for both powerpc
and ppc64. It will be available by tonight.

Even better!

;-)

Post by Steffen Grunewald

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main

Many thanks for your extremely fast and knowledgeable support,

You're very welcome. I'm always very glad to get such positive feedback! Tt really
means a lot to me since not everyone understands that even keeping the powerpc and
ppc64 ports in the current state they are is anything but easy.

I understand well the frustrations with the problems people run into, but unfortunately
not all of them are straight-forward to solve. One of the biggest problems is that the
Debian Ports infrastructure doesn't allow polished releases like for the standard Debian
infrastructure due to the lack of stable releases and the lack of the "contrib" and
"non-free" sections.

But I'm trying my best and I really welcome anyone who is willing to help!

Adrian

[Claudia Neumann]

Hi all,
hi John,

thanks to the new package b43-fwcutter the wlan works as expected. Many thanks to John
Glaubitz!

Now I can report, that the iMac G5 works with Debian Trixie/Sid:

Hardware from hwinfo:
cpu: PPC970FX, altivec supported, 2100 MHz
monitor: Apple Color LCD
graphics card: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV380 [Radeon X550/X600]
sound: Apple Multimedia audio controller
storage: Broadcom K2 SATA
network:
enP1p3s15f0 Apple Shasta (Sun GEM)
wlan0 Broadcom BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
disk:
/dev/sda WDC WD2500JS-40M
cdrom:
/dev/sr0 MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-846
usb controller:
NEC USB Controller
NEC USB Controller
NEC uPD72010x USB 2.0 Controller
bridge:
Apple U4 HT Bridge
Apple Shasta PCI Bridge
Apple Shasta PCI Bridge
Apple CPC945 PCIe Bridge
Apple Shasta PCI Bridge
memory:
Main Memory 1GB + 384 MB
firewire controller:
Apple Shasta Firewire
unknown:
DMA controller
PS/2 Controller
Apple Shasta IDE
Apple Shasta Mac I/O
PROM
Apple Built-in iSight (no firmware loaded)
/dev/input/event2 Apple Bluetooth HCI MacBookPro (HID mode)
Apple Built-in IR Receiver

I took Xfce for window manager. LibreOffice works fine, Firefox gives a segmentation fault
on start. As browser I use links2, not very comfortable.

Because I use the iMac only as an thin client I am satisfied with this.

@John: If I can help looking for the reason why firefox gives a segmentation fault, tell me
what I should do. Compiling software is not a problem to me.

Best regards

Claudia

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

Post by Steffen Grunewald

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
I will build the package manually and upload it to "unreleased" for both
powerpc and ppc64. It will be available by tonight.

Even better!

;-)

Post by Steffen Grunewald

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main

Many thanks for your extremely fast and knowledgeable support,

You're very welcome. I'm always very glad to get such positive feedback! Tt
really means a lot to me since not everyone understands that even keeping
the powerpc and ppc64 ports in the current state they are is anything but
easy.
I understand well the frustrations with the problems people run into, but
unfortunately not all of them are straight-forward to solve. One of the
biggest problems is that the Debian Ports infrastructure doesn't allow
polished releases like for the standard Debian infrastructure due to the
lack of stable releases and the lack of the "contrib" and "non-free"
sections.
But I'm trying my best and I really welcome anyone who is willing to help!
Adrian
--
.''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
: :' : Debian Developer
`. `' Physicist
`- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913

[João]

Hello Claudia,

Post by Claudia Neumann
As browser I use links2, not very comfortable.

You may want to try Netsurf (https://packages.debian.org/sid/netsurf-gtk),
depending on what you do it may work better thank links2.

Have you tried Epiphany (https://packages.debian.org/sid/epiphany-browser)?
I have not managed to make it work, and would be interested in knowing if it
works in your configuration with an ATI card.

Best wishes,
João

[Ken Cunningham]

Post by João
Hello Claudia,

Post by Claudia Neumann
As browser I use links2, not very comfortable.

You may want to try Netsurf (https://packages.debian.org/sid/netsurf-gtk),
depending on what you do it may work better thank links2.
Have you tried Epiphany (https://packages.debian.org/sid/epiphany-browser)?
I have not managed to make it work, and would be interested in knowing if it
works in your configuration with an ATI card.
Best wishes,
João

We had previously decided that the best browser available for debian PPC was

SeaLion (https://github.com/wicknix/SeaLion) is the best choice for PowerPC.

It works quite well for me, certainly better than anything else I have ever tried.


see the threads on this here:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2023/11/msg00011.html

and here:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2023/11/msg00015.html


I don't think anything significant has changed since then.

[João]

Hello Ken,

Post by Ken Cunningham
We had previously decided that the best browser available for debian PPC was

Surely the best browser is a matter of personal choice ;)

Post by Ken Cunningham
SeaLion (https://github.com/wicknix/SeaLion) is the best choice for PowerPC.
It works quite well for me, certainly better than anything else I have ever tried.

SeaLion is definitely worth considering, but it is not part of the distribution,
and it would be desirable if Debian PPC (we are talking about big endian PPC,
and I'm using PPC64 myself) would have a modern featurefull browser available.

Of course everyone (I should say most people ;)) would want Firefox, but from
the threads you quote below I was under the impressions that there was little
hope to get it working, but from Adrian's email on this thread I get the
impression that it is still worth pursuing?

Would packaging SeaLion in Debian be a worthwhile alternative goal?

Post by Ken Cunningham
https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2023/11/msg00011.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2023/11/msg00015.html
I don't think anything significant has changed since then.

Thank you for linking back to those threads which are informative and relevant.
I don't remember seeing there Epiphany mentioned, and I'm interested in knowing
if people have it working. It is not on par with Firefox in terms of features,
but it is a fine browser, supported, and in Debian.

Best regards,
João

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

Hello João,

Post by João
SeaLion is definitely worth considering, but it is not part of the distribution,
and it would be desirable if Debian PPC (we are talking about big endian PPC,
and I'm using PPC64 myself) would have a modern featurefull browser available.
Of course everyone (I should say most people ;)) would want Firefox, but from
the threads you quote below I was under the impressions that there was little
hope to get it working, but from Adrian's email on this thread I get the
impression that it is still worth pursuing?

Oracle ships a current version of Firefox on Solaris SPARC which is a big-endian
target and they have published all of their patches in their Github repository
for the Solaris userland [1].

Thus, someone that is interested in Firefox on big-endian PowerPC should sit down
and take the time to try building a Debian Firefox package with the Oracle patches
applied.

Post by João
Would packaging SeaLion in Debian be a worthwhile alternative goal?

A web browser is a huge potential security thread so packaging and maintaining it
requires a lot of patience and diligence. For that very reason, the Debian FTP
team will most likely reject a SeaLion package if it's submitted unless there is
a dedicated maintainer behind it.

Adrian

Post by João
[1] https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/tree/master/components/desktop/firefox/patches

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 6:05 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello João,

Post by João
SeaLion is definitely worth considering, but it is not part of the distribution,
and it would be desirable if Debian PPC (we are talking about big endian PPC,
and I'm using PPC64 myself) would have a modern featurefull browser available.
Of course everyone (I should say most people ;)) would want Firefox, but from
the threads you quote below I was under the impressions that there was little
hope to get it working, but from Adrian's email on this thread I get the
impression that it is still worth pursuing?

Oracle ships a current version of Firefox on Solaris SPARC which is a big-endian
target and they have published all of their patches in their Github repository
for the Solaris userland [1].
Thus, someone that is interested in Firefox on big-endian PowerPC should sit down
and take the time to try building a Debian Firefox package with the Oracle patches
applied.

This patch appears to be very relevant:
<https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/blob/master/components/desktop/firefox/patches/Bug1888396.patch>.
It provides the big- and little-endian dance.

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

Post by João
Would packaging SeaLion in Debian be a worthwhile alternative goal?

A web browser is a huge potential security thread so packaging and maintaining it
requires a lot of patience and diligence. For that very reason, the Debian FTP
team will most likely reject a SeaLion package if it's submitted unless there is
a dedicated maintainer behind it.

Post by João
[1] https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/tree/master/components/desktop/firefox/patches

Jeff

[Ken Cunningham]

Firefox has been broken for some years. That’s not really a matter of opinion :) :)

Of course it will be great if someday it were fixed.

Epiphany is OK for simple things like viewing the gnome help files, but you will likely find as I did it can’t handle most current web sites you may try.

Just pointing out we went around all this before, recently, and the only really functional browser anyone found at present was SeaLion. I was glad to have it suggested, and have been using it since then with good but not complete success. So I thought I would share that with you.

But feel free not to use it ;) :)

K

Post by Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 6:05 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello João,

Post by João
SeaLion is definitely worth considering, but it is not part of the distribution,
and it would be desirable if Debian PPC (we are talking about big endian PPC,
and I'm using PPC64 myself) would have a modern featurefull browser available.
Of course everyone (I should say most people ;)) would want Firefox, but from
the threads you quote below I was under the impressions that there was little
hope to get it working, but from Adrian's email on this thread I get the
impression that it is still worth pursuing?

Oracle ships a current version of Firefox on Solaris SPARC which is a big-endian
target and they have published all of their patches in their Github repository
for the Solaris userland [1].
Thus, someone that is interested in Firefox on big-endian PowerPC should sit down
and take the time to try building a Debian Firefox package with the Oracle patches
applied.

<https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/blob/master/components/desktop/firefox/patches/Bug1888396.patch>.
It provides the big- and little-endian dance.

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

Post by João
Would packaging SeaLion in Debian be a worthwhile alternative goal?

A web browser is a huge potential security thread so packaging and maintaining it
requires a lot of patience and diligence. For that very reason, the Debian FTP
team will most likely reject a SeaLion package if it's submitted unless there is
a dedicated maintainer behind it.

Post by João
[1] https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/tree/master/components/desktop/firefox/patches

Jeff

[Ken Cunningham]

Post by Ken Cunningham
Firefox has been broken for some years.
Of course it will be great if someday it were fixed.

I have some practical experience coding in the FireFox code base— a few years ago Riccardo and I collaborated for a few weeks over the Christmas holidays to fix endian issues in TenFourFox (was PPC only then) and make that available to Intel systems. I still use that daily.

But as detailed in the thread last November, I ran into trouble getting a build system working in debian PPC for the current Firefox code base. I asked for some help, but nothing was suggested. So that is still in a folder on my dual G5.

Adrian apparently does have a working build system for that code base, and perhaps we might get something going.

K

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

Post by Ken Cunningham
But as detailed in the thread last November, I ran into trouble getting a build
system working in debian PPC for the current Firefox code base. I asked for 
help, but nothing was suggested. So that is still in a folder on my dual G5.

Just install and set up sbuild, then download the firefox source and build
it using sbuild.

If you want to build the upstream sources, you can just create a schroot,
install the build dependencies and build Firefox according to the upstream
build instructions.

I don't think it's actually really any difficult.

Post by Ken Cunningham
Adrian apparently does have a working build system for that code base,
and perhaps we might get something going.

I'm just using the standard tools available in Debian. It's not really rocket science.

I also don't remember seeing any questions regarding that here, but my memory might
fail me here.

Adrian

[Ken Cunningham]

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

Post by Ken Cunningham
But as detailed in the thread last November, I ran into trouble getting a build
system working in debian PPC for the current Firefox code base. I asked for
help, but nothing was suggested. So that is still in a folder on my dual G5.

Just install and set up sbuild, then download the firefox source and build
it using sbuild.
If you want to build the upstream sources, you can just create a schroot,
install the build dependencies and build Firefox according to the upstream
build instructions.
I don't think it's actually really any difficult.

Indeed, thank goodness it is so trivially easy to build things on debian. I have build -- many things now. For one recent impressive one, the 64 bit PPC version Lazarus has a longstanding crashing error, but the 32 bit version, built from source and installed on 64 bit PPC, works just fine.

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

Post by Ken Cunningham
Adrian apparently does have a working build system for that code base,
and perhaps we might get something going.

I'm just using the standard tools available in Debian. It's not really rocket science.
I also don't remember seeing any questions regarding that here, but my memory might
fail me here.

I can't expect you to remember everything that goes on here on this list, certainly.

And I didn't bring it up again, so it likely drifted past like a cloud...

The issue was noted here (long time ago now):

https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2023/11/msg00055.html

My new best friend, ChatGPT, tells me it was likely a permissions problem, and although I am pretty sure I would have tried a trivial fix like that, I'll give it another go when the machine warms up and see.

Best,

Ken

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Adrian
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[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

Post by Ken Cunningham

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
I don't think it's actually really any difficult.

Indeed, thank goodness it is so trivially easy to build things on debian.
I have build -- many things now. For one recent impressive one, the 64 bit
PPC version Lazarus has a longstanding crashing error, but the 32 bit version,
built from source and installed on 64 bit PPC, works just fine.

Did you report the Lazarus issue upstream? The Free Pascal developers are usually
very interested in bug reports even for the less common targets.

Post by Ken Cunningham

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
I also don't remember seeing any questions regarding that here, but my memory might
fail me here.

I can't expect you to remember everything that goes on here on this list, certainly.
And I didn't bring it up again, so it likely drifted past like a cloud...
https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2023/11/msg00055.html
$ apt-get build-dep firefox
$ apt source firefox
$ apt install python-is-python3
$ cd firefox-120.0
$ dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc

I would suggest building the binary-arch target only, i.e.:

$ dpkg-buildpackage -B

Calling "dpkg-buildpackage" without providing the build type defaults to a
full build which includes arch-all and the source packages which you don't
really need.

Adrian

[Claudia Neumann]

Hi,

I tested on iMAC G5 with Radeon graphic card
epiphany-browser : segmentation fault
dillo -> better than links but no pictures, not very comfortable.

CU

Claudia

Firefox has been broken for some years. That’s not really a matter of
opinion :) :)
Of course it will be great if someday it were fixed.
Epiphany is OK for simple things like viewing the gnome help files, but you
will likely find as I did it can’t handle most current web sites you may
try.
Just pointing out we went around all this before, recently, and the only
really functional browser anyone found at present was SeaLion. I was glad
to have it suggested, and have been using it since then with good but not
complete success. So I thought I would share that with you.
But feel free not to use it ;) :)
K

On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 6:05 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

Hello João,

Post by João
SeaLion is definitely worth considering, but it is not part of the
distribution, and it would be desirable if Debian PPC (we are talking
about big endian PPC, and I'm using PPC64 myself) would have a modern
featurefull browser available.
Of course everyone (I should say most people ;)) would want Firefox, but
from the threads you quote below I was under the impressions that there
was little hope to get it working, but from Adrian's email on this
thread I get the impression that it is still worth pursuing?

Oracle ships a current version of Firefox on Solaris SPARC which is a
big-endian target and they have published all of their patches in their
Github repository for the Solaris userland [1].
Thus, someone that is interested in Firefox on big-endian PowerPC should
sit down and take the time to try building a Debian Firefox package with
the Oracle patches applied.

<https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/blob/master/components/desktop
/firefox/patches/Bug1888396.patch>. It provides the big- and little-endian
dance.

Post by João
Would packaging SeaLion in Debian be a worthwhile alternative goal?

A web browser is a huge potential security thread so packaging and
maintaining it requires a lot of patience and diligence. For that very
reason, the Debian FTP team will most likely reject a SeaLion package if
it's submitted unless there is a dedicated maintainer behind it.

Post by João
[1]
https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/tree/master/components/deskt
op/firefox/patches>

Jeff

[David VANTYGHEM]

Hello,

There are lots of browsers. I tried to classify them by engine. Don't
hesitate to notify errors or missing. Browsers based on Chromium are
interesting because they integrate WebXR and can work with virtual reality .

Browsers based on Mozilla Gecko engine :
 - Firefox
- GNU IceCat : https://icecatbrowser.org. A free version of Firefox.
 - Floorp, fork of Firefox ESR : https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp.
 - FireDragon, fork of Floorp :
https://github.com/dr460nf1r3/firedragon-browser.
 - Ghostery, fork of Firefox :
https://github.com/ghostery/user-agent-desktop.
 - Helix, fork of PulseBrowser :
https://github.com/pulse-browser/experiment.
 - LibreWolf, fork of Firefox : https://librewolf-community.gitlab.io.
 - Mypal, fork of Firefox : https://mypal-browser.org. Works well with
Windows XP.
 - Mercury, fork of Firefox : https://github.com/Alex313031/Mercury.
 - Waterfox, fork of Firefox :
https://github.com/BrowserWorks/Waterfox. One can add XUL extensions.

Goanna engine (https://www.palemoon.org/tech/goanna.shtml), fork of
Gecko (Firefox 52 ESR), one can add XUL extensions :
 - Basilisk : https://basilisk-browser.org.
 - Pale Moon : https://palemoon.org.
 - Artic Fox, fork of Pale Moon version 27.9.4 :
https://github.com/rmottola/Arctic-Fox. Works well with Windows XP
(excepted with https://www.france24.com) and rendering of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=eoY1Mc70uTo is worse than
Mypal rendering.
 - SeaLion : https://github.com/wicknix/SeaLion.

Apple WebKit engine (https://webkit.org) :
 - GNOME Web (new name of Epiphany) : https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Web.
 - Luakit : https://github.com/luakit/luakit.
 - surf : https://surf.suckless.org.
 - Nyxt : https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt. Compatible with
WebEngine and Blink (experimental) engines.
 - Safe Exam Browser : https://safeexambrowser.org. Windows version
uses Blink engine. To do a kiosk.

Google Blink engine (https://chromium.org/blink/), fork of WebKit :
 - Chromium : https://github.com/chromium/chromium. Used by Brave,
Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge.
 - ungoogled-chromium, based on Chromium :
https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium
 - Iridium, based on Chromium : https://github.com/iridium-browser.
 - Thorium, based on Chromium : https://github.com/Alex313031/Thorium.

WebEngine engine (https://wiki.qt.io/QtWebEngine), a Qt version of
Chromium :
 - Dooble : https://github.com/textbrowser/dooble.
 - Falkon (new name of QupZilla) : https://falkon.org.
 - Liri : https://github.com/lirios/browser.
 - Otter Browser : https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser.
 - qutebrowser : https://github.com/qutebrowser/qutebrowser.

LibWeb engine
(https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/tree/master/Userland/Libraries/LibWeb)
:
 - Ladybird : https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird.

Servo engine : https://servo.org.

? engine :
 - Kristall : https://github.com/ikskuh/kristall.
 - Netsurf : https://www.netsurf-browser.org.
 - litehtml : https://github.com/litehtml/litehtml.

Post by João
Hello Ken,

Post by Ken Cunningham
We had previously decided that the best browser available for debian PPC was

Surely the best browser is a matter of personal choice ;)

Post by Ken Cunningham
SeaLion (https://github.com/wicknix/SeaLion) is the best choice for PowerPC.
It works quite well for me, certainly better than anything else I have ever tried.

SeaLion is definitely worth considering, but it is not part of the distribution,
and it would be desirable if Debian PPC (we are talking about big endian PPC,
and I'm using PPC64 myself) would have a modern featurefull browser available.
Of course everyone (I should say most people ;)) would want Firefox, but from
the threads you quote below I was under the impressions that there was little
hope to get it working, but from Adrian's email on this thread I get the
impression that it is still worth pursuing?
Would packaging SeaLion in Debian be a worthwhile alternative goal?

Post by Ken Cunningham
https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2023/11/msg00011.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2023/11/msg00015.html
I don't think anything significant has changed since then.

Thank you for linking back to those threads which are informative and relevant.
I don't remember seeing there Epiphany mentioned, and I'm interested in knowing
if people have it working. It is not on par with Firefox in terms of features,
but it is a fine browser, supported, and in Debian.
Best regards,
João

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[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

Hello,

Post by Claudia Neumann
@John: If I can help looking for the reason why firefox gives a segmentation
fault, tell me what I should do. Compiling software is not a problem to me.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1845669
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1602836

I actually wonder whether Oracle has any custom patch to fix Firefox

Post by Claudia Neumann
https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/tree/master/components/desktop/firefox/patches

Some needs to take up the work and see if any of these patches help
fixing Firefox on ppc64.

Adrian

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 9:54 AM Steffen Grunewald

Post by Steffen Grunewald
[...]

Post by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main

Many thanks for your extremely fast and knowledgeable support,

I think we should chip-in and buy Adrian a bubble suit. We need to
ensure he does not get hurt if a bus hapens to hit him while crossing
the street.

<https://www.google.com/search?q=bubble+suit+for+adults>.

Jeff